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Re: Will Harangue WTF!

Postby LordoftheDew on Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:08 pm

You guys are reading waaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy too much into this character. He's is a minor antagonist, and he's appeared in only a few episodes. Don't get so sensitive. Harangue is going nowhere. Dwayne writes the show, you guys don't. Deal with it.
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Re: Will Harangue WTF!

Postby §elices on Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:09 pm

LordoftheDew wrote:You guys are reading waaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy too much into this character. He's is a minor antagonist, and he's appeared in only a few episodes. Don't get so sensitive. Harangue is going nowhere. Dwayne writes the show, you guys don't. Deal with it.
Thats my point though. He's not going anywhere so why include him.
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Re: Will Harangue WTF!

Postby LordoftheDew on Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:36 pm

Because this would be AF Season 4. There has to be consequences. There has to be conflict.
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Re: Will Harangue WTF!

Postby §elices on Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:38 pm

Theres many much more interesting things they could do with the fame plot.
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Re: Will Harangue WTF!

Postby YoursBadDay on Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:39 pm

LordoftheDew wrote:Because this would be AF Season 4. There has to be consequences. There has to be conflict.

Yes but he's a bad consequence (not in the "evil" but in the "poorly chosen" way.),a useless,unfunny and non-scary.
The Ultimatrix and Aggregor are big enough changes to me .
It's called "Ben 10:Ultimate Alien" not "Will Harangue Anti-Ben 10".
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Re: Will Harangue WTF!

Postby §elices on Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:40 pm

Yes
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Re: Will Harangue WTF!

Postby LordoftheDew on Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:41 pm

YoursBadDay wrote:
LordoftheDew wrote:Because this would be AF Season 4. There has to be consequences. There has to be conflict.

Yes but he's a bad consequence (not in the "evil" but in the "poorly chosen" way.),a useless,unfunny and non-scary.
The Ultimatrix and Aggregor are big enough changes to me .
It's called "Ben 10:Ultimate Alien" not "Will Harangue Anti-Ben 10".

He's not supposed to be funny. He's not supposed to be scary. HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN OBSTACLE.
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Re: Will Harangue WTF!

Postby Ben1000000 on Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:09 pm

kakapotrainer wrote:
YoursBadDay wrote:
LordoftheDew wrote:Are you crazy? The Will Harangue sub-plot is going to go right over a child's head. They don't understand how the media works.

Harangue is a fucking retarded attempt at comedy,that's all,admit it.
He is probably the worst character ever and least funny thing I've seen it my life,he is in no way a threat,the plots surrounding him are illogical etc. I can go on all day about what an epic fail he is but I'd rather not,he doesn't even deserve that.


No, he does deserve more complaint. He was Exhibit B in my "Reasons I Gave Up on Ultimate Alien" argument (right after A, "Making Kevin a Flat Psycho Again to Appease TVTropes & the Incest Freaks"). He fails as drama because no one, not even kids, can suspend disbelief enough to believe that countless people will forget what they saw for their damn selves and take him at his word that Ben is EEEEVVVIIIILLLLL; he fails as comedy for the simple fact that he is too fucking annoying to be funny, not even in that inflated-ego way that J. Jonah Jameson has. He doesn't "make things harder for Ben" - he just insults him and is generally a loudmouth. Even kids, even the slow ones who are keeping "Generator Rex" on the air, know that people don't build their lives & worldviews around what they see on television except for abject mornons. Finally, for those of us who are totally, utterly sick of real-life screaming media punditry, finding it shoehorned into our fiction just to somehow make it "more realistic" is NOT APPRECIATED. Even if they reveal that - surprise, surprise - he was working on a smear campaign with the Forever Knights, it's just too little, too late. His fatal irritation level and lack of humanization (which even JJJ got) has done its damage, and again, I am glad to hear others think he is another narrative cancer needless inflicted upon this season. "Ultimate Alien" squandered so much of the good that "Alien Force" did making this franchise decent, and any attempt to defend these efforts reminds me why it was done at all & why TV as a whole is getting dumber.
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Re: Will Harangue WTF!

Postby PeruAlonso on Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:19 pm

Kakaopo, what was Exhibit C on "Reasons I Gave Up on Ultimate Alien"?
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Re: Will Harangue WTF!

Postby Benvictor97 on Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:27 pm

Ben 10 Ultimate Alien is about Ben being famous because:

1. It's CN's Hannah Montanna or crap like that

2. Almost every major network has a show about a teen celebreity who has to hide from the "media"

3. It would alow much more viral marketing, meaning much more $$$

Basicly, Will Harangue is supposed to be the "papparatzi" or "media", but not as fucking gay
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