Aliens? What about people from the last universe...

[Invictus]

I think Rod Serling was on the right track ... You unlock this door with the key of imagination, beyond it is another dimension, a dimension of sound, a dimension, of sight, a dimension of mind, you're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas, you've just crossed over into the twilight zone.

[§elices]

I can agree with your statements, however with two exceptions, i feel that causality does exist to the extent there has to be an impetus for certain things, everything can't be happening as a matter of coincidence or because of some random occurrence,, patterns do exist , even if you think it is all illusion the illusion itself must have a cause, the fact that I can pinch myself and perceive pain means that causality is not a fallacy , but because humans have blinders on and voluntarily refuse to see to make known what is unknown they will always be left with unanswered questions ... I don't feel humans are blind as a natural condition , most have just put blinders on and don't want to expand their minds, what are these blinders then,, religion, prejudice,ego, and fear, that's another creepy four for you,, that has stifled the evolution of intellectual progress and left us with unknowns and probably will always have us wondering where and how did it all begin.

Yes but you also have to think that you thinking there must be a cause for some things is just more of that unintentional blinding Im talking about. Basically what Im saying is that in order to reveal any sort of truth you must abandon logic to a certain extent, although even these statements use a baseline logic, thus completely putting a paradox on my whole point. Paradoxes are the biggest problems within philosophy and existential studies in general. They put a total halt to every argument. This is a problem we must overcome with what I would call "Anti Logic". When there's no logic to be found, there's no logic to apply at all.

Good point about those four other things.

Also I think technology is one of the biggest things which have blocked human evolution. I think its kind of interesting that tech and evolution fill in each others gaps. Can you just imagine if we never created tech of ANY kind?

[ターボは255ジェイク]

I think Rod Serling was on the right track ... You unlock this door with the key of imagination, beyond it is another dimension, a dimension of sound, a dimension, of sight, a dimension of mind, you're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas, you've just crossed over into the twilight zone.

you lost me at I.

[Invictus]

We were discussing, beginnings, what existed before the big bang , causality, the evolution of knowledge, the impedance of knowledge, all of which are ideas based on logic some based on fallacy, , I just put Rod Serling's words out there as juxtaposition to logic ,and state that imagination is also key in this discussion.

[ターボは255ジェイク]

We were discussing, beginnings, what existed before the big bang , causality, the evolution of knowledge, the impedance of knowledge, all of which are ideas based on logic some based on fallacy, , I just put Rod Serling's words out there as juxtaposition to logic ,and state that imagination is also key in this discussion.

ive been to this thread when it first started. i know wahts going on its just you got me a little confused and i was joking around. i reread it and i understand. this guy seems to be a genius.

[§elices]

We were discussing, beginnings, what existed before the big bang , causality, the evolution of knowledge, the impedance of knowledge, all of which are ideas based on logic some based on fallacy, , I just put Rod Serling's words out there as juxtaposition to logic ,and state that imagination is also key in this discussion.

ive been to this thread when it first started. i know wahts going on its just you got me a little confused and i was joking around. i reread it and i understand. this guy seems to be a genius.

How right you are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_serling

[Ben1000000]

I <3 Rod Serling's work. I'm sorry if this is off topic....

He seems like a genius anyway....

[§elices]

I <3 Rod Serling's work. I'm sorry if this is off topic....

He seems like a genius anyway....

Yep. Twilight Zone is the shit. Its awesome.

[ターボは255ジェイク]

I <3 Rod Serling's work. I'm sorry if this is off topic....

He seems like a genius anyway....

Yep. Twilight Zone is the shit. Its awesome.

[Ben1000000]

You don't know what the twilight zone is??